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NYE Surge Pricing Explained

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In the last several days, we’ve received a ton of questions about how reliable Uber will be on New Year’s Eve. “Will there be a car available?” “Can I count on you guys for the New Year’s festivities?”

On New Year’s Eve, yes that’s tonight :) , we are aiming to provide a reliable ride to anybody who needs one, no matter how crazy demand is or what is going on in the city. We won’t be perfect, but we’ll be damn close; and as you might expect, there’s a price to that kind of reliability and convenience during such a massive spike in demand. We’re rolling out what we call Surge Pricing in order to achieve such a high level of service on NYE.

How does Surge Pricing work?

We raise price when supply of available cars gets tight. [Example: If there are 300 cars up in a city and 290 of them are picking up a rider or in trip, then this would be considered an extremely tight supply situation.] We raise the price in increments over time based on supply health. When supply opens up, we then lower the price.

How does Surge Pricing maximize the number of Uber rides?

We are able to get a far greater number of drivers on the system when Surge Pricing is in effect – it’s basic economics. Higher prices encourages more supply to come online. It gets some drivers out to work on NYE. It keeps other drivers from going to alternatives like renting their car out for the night, or trying their luck at hustling rides on the street. Higher prices means more cars, means more rides, means more people getting around the city efficiently, safely AND in style :)

Why does Surge Pricing make for Uber reliability?

When we start seeing a shortage in supply, we raise the price. We continue to raise the price until demand begins to wane. Assuming we raise price quickly enough to maintain healthy supply, there will always be an Uber ride available.

How do Uber customers know the price?

  • Our prices are clearly displayed on our website.
  • Any surge pricing event is accompanied with a notification of what the price increase is vs. normal rates before a request is made (riders must OK through the notification), as well as immediately after the request in case they want to cancel before the car arrives.

If you’d like to know more, read our Halloween Surge Pricing post.

 

Happy New Year!

Travis
Uber Co-founder, CEO

 

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cjsnee 6 pts

Can you explain how this pricing model is compliant with King County's regulations (Seattle area) on for-hire vehicles? Specifically section 6.64.760 - Rates, available here: http://www.kingcounty.gov/council/legislation/kc_code.aspx

MichelleBroderick 5 pts

cjsnee Uber is not a taxicab. We are working with the city, county and state to ensure that we are fully in compliance with all laws and regulations.

cjsnee 6 pts

MichelleBroderick But Uber *is* a for-hire vehicle company, a designation which is clearly included in section 6.64 of the county's code.

Based on the code's requirements for what a for-hire vehicle company must do to charge special rates, it's not at all clear whether this "surge pricing" actually complies.

TravisKalanick 5 pts

cjsneeMichelleBroderick Uber owns/leases no cars, and employs no drivers - it is a lead generation system for limo companies and for-hire vehicle companies

ThatOtherGUy 5 pts

TravisKalanickcjsneeMichelleBroderick It sounds like it's time to use the Uber blog to organize to get services like it included under the statute.

EricaT 7 pts

Last night will be the last time that I use Uber's services. I noticed the icon that indicated "raised rates." However, I never received any notification that the rates would be quadrupled, giving me the opportunity to cancel before arrival. I inquired with the driver what the raised rates would be and he never answered the question. When we arrived at our destination, we asked to see the rate. The driver did not show it to us and waited until he drove off to complete the ride so that we would receive the email. It was $170 for what is typically a $20 ride. The driver also waited in traffic ($18 fee for time x4 = paying $72 to wait in traffic!) when the driver could have taken alternative routes. During the ride, we even thanked the driver for being prompt and he himself said "wait until you see the bill". We asked what he meant by that and he quickly changed the conversation. The company did not quadruple rates for reliability, they did it for greed. It is the same reason that amusement parks charge $5 for a bottle of water. Because they have a captive audience.

Uber_DC 7 pts

EricaT Hey Erica, can you email us with your concerns about this fare? We'll do whatever we can to make things right. support@uber.com

donnyo 5 pts

Can you explain what you've done to make your *app* more reliable during times of congestion? I found it nearly impossible to even *request* a ride on Halloween, let alone ever get to the point where I could OK an increase in price. I found the app has behaved like this a couple of other times during busy weekend nights. I've usually given up and taken a cab instead. Since you raise rates on nights like tonight, what have you done to add capacity on nights like tonight to make sure your app works properly?

Uber_DC 7 pts

donnyo Hey there—we haven't heard of too many issues like this. Can you describe exactly what's happening in the app? Is it locking up? And are you on iPhone or Android? Feel free to email if that's easier: support@uber.com. Thanks!

sum_j 5 pts

Hmm, not sure I buy this. I'm an early Uber adopter & evangelist. I hope this price hike is worth it, as I've watched the fuzzy goodwill wane w/ drivers gaming the system, taking the longest route - so be sure to manage Ur drivers & route! More users should decrease fares. AAA is giving free rides to all who need one. Hope this works 2nite. I'll be Ubering & watching.

taxiroute 5 pts

sum_j

i run taxiroute.co.uk in the uk . we have 2 distinct types of taxi. "hackney" and "cab". get in a cab and the price could be anything. get in a "hackney" and its "governed". i decided to spend 6 months building the complete uk hackney database so at least people have a base line

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ryangraves 12 pts moderator

sum_j Thanks for the comment... would love more detail on what you mean "drivers gaming Uber". We work to prevent any of that and the incentives just aren't there to game. Feel free to email me. ryanATuberDOTcom

Ryan - VP Operations

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